The amazing thing to me, a Christian, is that anyone - Christian or non - would dedicate this much time to proving or disproving anything at all. What is leading you to do such? Just your "sense of humor (or humour, as the British – who, with such an irritating irreverence to real English continue to misspell this word…lol)?” Scientists have a tendency to be curious about the world we live in.That is why we try to discover things.
It seems to me that you are overly concerned with things that do not concern you. Let me ask you a question, please. If you do not care whether or not a person believes in God, and by God, I include the Son, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, then why do you insist on driving people away from Him? Firstly, you misunderstand our (my) goals. My main concern is keeping any religion not based on scientific fact from being taught as science. Also, we (I) am scared of an automatically accepted dogma for any group of people, and because 80% of the USA is religious, this is a big concern. The Xian dogma (btw, don't be offended by x instead of Christ. The reason that was started was because x is in Greek the letter "Chi" which stands for "Christ") is has strong stances on gay marriage and abortion (lets not get into arguing these topics), while the majority of non-Xians take the polar opposite stance. Any group having too much power is scary. I also dream of a world where everyone bases their beliefs on reason and not faith. Addressing your main point in the above paragraph, we DO care whether or not a person believes in God.
How can Jesus hurt the people who do not believe in Him? If you do not believe, then do not believe, fine. The problem with all this FSM mess is that you are leading people who may have become good and powerful Christians astray. I addressed this in my above comment. If you need more elaboration, you have but to ask.
I was an atheist for a few years, and looked at all the theories, facts, and theories (I repeated the word twice, don’t think it was by accident) and the thing I found was that no one has a clue where we really came from. Yes, Darwin has great ideas, and those ideas have been perpetuated throughout the last century and a half to show more of the same. But the fact is, no one knows, and to be honest – the facts just DO NOT support evolution, and if you really look, with an open mind, you will see that what I say is true. Where did you get the idea that the facts do not point to evolution? Evolution is an fundamental observable principle, just like gravity.
Fact 1: There is competition between animals. If a bacteria cell were to divide at the rate of once per minute, in an hour, there would be more germ cells than molecules in the earth.
Fact 2: There will be variations or mutations in a species. The animals aren't identical. This is obvious.
Fact 3: The 'best' animals are more likely to survive than the 'worst' animals.
Tada! That is evolution.
There are really no records of history that go beyond Biblical times, and I kept coming back to that fact. If we have been around for Millions (perhaps Billions) of years, where is the documentation, stone or otherwise? Why is it that over the last 2000 years our civilization has become so advanced… so advanced that I can type these words on a screen, as never before? I do not have an answer for these questions, nor does anyone – although someone surely thinks they do. Surely I am misunderstanding you; there is myriad proofs that the earth is older than biblical times. Look at carbon dating, radiometric dating, rock layers, fossils, and light from galaxies millions of light-years away, for starters. Please correct me if I am being thick and misunderstood your argument.
Back to my original question, in paragraph three, what is the reason for this whole movement? Why are some so concerned with what others believe…to the point of calling those who do believe in God idiots? Why is it offensive that there might be another possibility other than evolution? Are you not the “open-minded” people you claim to be? Can there be NO other possibility… really? Since there is no proof, do we have to limit our schools to one possibility; and not let the students decide? This is not math, there is not a law that tells us how exactly things work.THIS is exactly what we stand for. Keeping ID out of schools. It is not science, and should be kept out of the classrooms. If you accept the idea of "let the children choose", why not give them more options to choose from? It is unfair to rob them of the chance to convert to pastafarinism, or understand the "theories" that the earth was created by an invisible pink unicorn, or juju the mountain troll? If the science classroom isn't for science, give all the baseless religions a chance, not just yours.
Oh, but science is so advanced now, we know what is going on…really? Scientists used to think that the earth was flat, scientists used to think that the sun rotated around the earth, scientists used to think that drilling into a human’s skull would help them work their problems out (as a matter of fact, the best group of scientists in the world gave Egas Moniz the Nobel Peace Prize for the Lobotomy in 1949…just 59 years ago). Oh how times have changed. What idiots we were, drilling into a skull…wow! But back in the 1800’s(oh, 200 years ago is out, but 2000 years ago is in? Okay...)
Darwin came up with evolution and that is still respected? We cannot prove nor disprove this flawed science.Read above; science is ok with admitting that we don't know. The logical stance is agnosticism.
The one thing older than 2000 years that science has never been able to prove, or DIS-prove is the existence of, creation by, and subsequent sacrifice of - God Himself, no matter how hard they try. And by the looks of this website, and others just like it…there have been those that have been trying VERY hard.Even if God cannot be disproven - which for the sake of argument, I will accept - does not make it correct, or even a remote possibility.
If you would like to read philosophical accounts of God’s existence – read Pascal, Kant, C.S. Lewis, or even Einstein. Philosophical accounts mean nothing. I believe in the idea of God; I also believe in the idea of fairies, leprecons, and dragons. Depending on how you define God , such as "Einstein's God", I may believe in that. On the same note, calling a corn stalk a unicorn and saying unicorns therefore exist doesn't prove winged horses with horns exist. If this doesn't make sense, my deepest apologies. It made sense in my head, and got jumbled up in the typing process. I will gladly rephrase, if you wish.
If you would like scientific accounts of God’s existence, sorry it can’t be done. Exactly.
And this is where we get into the thing that the FSM creators have most made fun of… faith. And that’s fine. I was told I would be made fun of, I was told people would laugh; I was told I would be beaten, possibly stoned to death - for my belief in the Son of God. If all YOU can do is create a website, I can deal with that all day. Heck, I will post my picture, my family’s picture, my email, my phone number, my address, and my work address if that’s all you will do - create a funky little website called, “ The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.” I am glad that you don't mind being the butt of a joke. That is a noble quality. I have no issues laughing at jokes that make fun of atheism, or any of my other beliefs. You should enjoy life as much as possible. Why spend time getting offended when it won't help either party? Good job.
How awesome is that? I can tell you all that I believe, and all you will do is laugh at me and pat me on my little retarded shoulder while you wink at your friends. “He’s a stupid one.” You will say…“He really thinks there is a God…ha, ha.” And just leave me alone, right? We will see. I’m afraid the truth is I will be hated, mocked, made fun of, and threatened with violence. I hope your stay here is more enjoyable than you predicted. I hope the hormone ridden pastafarians (the scum of our community), who just want someone to curse at, don't bug you too much.
But, I have faith in God; therefore I will test this theory. My name is Scott Wickstrum, and my email is [email protected]
. Let me know how you feel.
Finally, I would like to say this: Make fun all you like, but the Bible still cannot be disproven, and there are no other documents as revered – yet more thoroughly tried to be proven false - as the Bible. And IF…by the small chance (according to science) IF…the Bible IS the true Word of God – then read and contemplate these words… Romans 1:18 – 25 ------
And if you are truly open-minded, truly after knowledge, truly wanting to discover the truth… you will read this…if for no other reason than to make fun of it…otherwise, you are just as closed minded as the Christian idiots that you make fun of…I read it
18For the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness, 19because that which may be known of God is manifest in them, for God hath shown it unto them. 20For from the creation of the world the invisible things of Him are clearly seen, being understood through the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse. 21For when they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God, nor were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man, and to birds and fourfooted beasts and creeping things. 24Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies among themselves. 25They changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Because the Bible is not regarded as any evidence at all, Bible quotes are out until someone shows it's credentials. The book itself claiming that it is the word of God is not a credential.