Moe Sunkist wrote:Well, im not quite sure where i am supposed to go with this. All i can say is that I am a Christian and have been since the October '07. I would love to enlighten you guys about the love of Jesus Christ. As for the issue of hypocrisy i have this to say: Jesus Christ, a man that can be proven exists as much as any other man back in the day, was crucified. And during his life, He spent it believing He was the Son of the heavenly God, and performed miracles in His name. This lead me to three choices.
1.) He is a crazy man who didnt know anything and was probly dropped on His head as a babe.
2.) He is a liar who wanted to become famous fro being the King of the Jews.
3.) He was the Messiah, the Son of God, the Redeemer of Man.
I cannot believe the first to be true, because of the miracles professed by those around Him, and that He would inspire so many to follow in His footsteps to death 2000 years later.
The second could very well be plausible, except for why would this man go through the most humiliating and painful death. Would He really be willing to go that far to be famous? You cant be receive that type of fame and recognition if you are dead. Oh and not once did he claim to be lying upon the cross.
So that leaves door number three. This to me was a big help in understanding my faith when i was struggling. I can see where everyone gets there point across, on how it takes the same amount of faith to believe in a flying blob of noodles, but is it really. Most things i have read on here have been jokes, jokes on God and Jesus, jokes on even your FSM. So much for your faith.
God bless. I love you, and in Jesus's perfect name i pray for you,
your humble servant Moe.
I know that trick. I use it on my kids and grandkids when I want them to do or believe something. In among some preposterous suggestions I bury the one I want them to do/believe. Easy to predict which one they'll pick! But, as others have pointed out, your list isn't exhaustive; there are many more options!
None of the existing New Testament was written contemporaneously and none of it in English. Even so, despite extensive study I have never found anywhere written that Jesus considered himself to be anything other than fully human and no more (or less) a part of God than any of us!
The 'King of the Jews' thing was a joke by the Romans! Have you actually read the New Testament? Obviously not in the Hebrew/Aramaic or Greek but even in any English translations?
The Catholic Church went to a lot of trouble to compile those particular scriptures into their Holy book - the least those of you of other Christian sects could do is actually read them!
And our Pastafarian 'faith' is a joke. In other words, if it is impossible to know the form of God, He might as well be represented by a Flying Spaghetti Monster! The major tenet of this place is respect - anyone may believe whatever they wish and no-one is allowed to mock them or attempt to make them believe anything else.
A lot of Christians mock us AND try to make us believe what they believe; that is disrepectful! We call them out for their disrespect, NOT their faith as that is a matter for them and them alone!