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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:17 pm
by ECQuaker
LibraLabRat wrote:
PETA? Sorry, I am against animal cruelty. However, on top of being a hunter, I also work in a medical laboratory. Most animal testing is legitmate. Cosmetics? No. Drug efficacy and disease studies? Yes.

I know that most animal testing is legitimate. Researchers are required to prevent as much pain as they possibly can when conducting animal testing, it's the law, but it didn't used to be. Researchers used to be allowed to do any tests or operations that they want, without anesthesia or any restrictions at all as to what they could do to these animals. Groups such as PETA lobbied for these laws.

I agree, by the way that drug and disease studies on animals should be allowed. Animal testing for vanity however, needs to stop. We have enough covergirl products to last us until the sun blows up.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:22 am
by NewspeakIsUngood
Rex-Imperator wrote:
LibraLabRat wrote:LIsten up Rex:



You want to make a difference? Peachy.

Being a squealing little protestor has accomplished what, exactly?

Why dont you ask PETA? Or ALF? OR VPC, or any of these other rich, white, sappy useless protest organizations.

We have problems here in the USA.

You wanna know how I feel about China?


If you havent noticed, we are losing soldiers every day in a useless and pointless war. But I guess us soldiers have it coming, since we arent all rich protestor kids with a cause, or poor chinese sweat shop workers.

Protest something worthwhile.

As long as Bush is President the War in Iraq will not end.

It's that simple.

And until the year 2008 rolls around we are going to have to watch our boys be killed every single day for one simple reason.

We Want Iraq's Oil.

This is what the Iraq War is all about, not WMD, not freeing the Iraqi People, not Fighting Terrorism. It's about OIL.

And don't you DARE talk to me about not protesting the Iraq War because I was one of the few people dead set AGAINST this war way back in 2003 during the lead up to the invasion.

Iraq is our Vietnam and just like Vietnam the only way out is to cut and run.

Actualy it's just the opposite we don't want Iraq's oil. At least we don't want it to get to the market at anything near a cheap rate. Oil is an inelastic good, meaning that consumption really doesn't change. As supply drops it means that what oil is on the market gets a lot more valuable. Since the price of refining oil isn't really going up that much, and since oil companies stick to selling about the same amount, they make a lot of money off of rebuilding slowly. Just look at the profits posted by oil companies over the past decade, as cheap dependable oil become more and more scarce the big companies make more and more profit.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:27 am
by boghog
LibraLabRat wrote:She is in America, and has been dealt with according to American laws.

Doesn't anyone else care that, according to the article, she's been charged with a crime she didn't commit?

Here's what it said in the article Rex Impersonator provided:

A woman accused of heckling Chinese President Hu Jintao during a White House appearance this week was charged Friday in federal court with a misdemeanor of willfully intimidating, coercing[,] threatening and harassing a foreign official.

According to Secret Service translations provided in court documents, she shouted in Chinese: "Stop oppressing the Falun Gong," as well as "Your Time is running out," and "Anything you have done will come back to you in this lifetime." She also shouted in heavily accented English: "President Bush, stop him from killing," and "President Bush, stop him from persecuting the Falun Gong."

To me, it sounds like all she's done is make statements that pissed off the powers-that-be; she exercised free speech. Of course, the White House staff also have the freedom to take action: a simple "get off the property and don't come back," would be in order. A trumped-up charge is not.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:43 pm
by Capellini
LibraLabRat wrote:Dont put words in my mouth.

She is in America, and has been dealt with according to American laws.

If it were in China, where would she be?

I am talking about Americans whining about the problems all over the world when we have problems that need to be dealt with here in America.

And right there is the problem I have with your posts. You equate people who PROTEST with WHINING, which is rude and derogatory, and not at all an accurate representation of what protest is. And its not even a true representation of YOUR feelings, as I bet if the woman had been protesting the war in Iraq, you wouldn't be calling it whining. So what you're saying is that protesting non-American problems is whining. It's prejudice, plain and simple. WE are more important than THEM, OUR problems are bigger than THEIR'S, protesting American issues HONORABLE, protesting Chinese issues is WHINING.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:25 pm
by LibraLabRat
Is that the problem?

You seem to have a problem with just about any topic I post, as it has to do with politics or a stance that doesnt fit yours.

And quite frankly, I find it tiresome.

You assume you know everything about what I mean, or what my intent was.

Give it a rest. Unless you have a special doorway into my head, quit claiming to know my mind.