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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby Cap'nsam » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:13 am

Re: previous post. "Pleural" is also a typo for plural, going by context. So, no sarcasm this time. :zen:
P.S. Brits are also better at sarcasm. And irony. And getting out of Iraq when the fecal matter impacts with the air recirculation system. Oh dear, more sarcasm.

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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby daftbeaker » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:53 pm

Cap'nsam wrote:And getting out of Iraq when the fecal matter impacts with the air recirculation system. Oh dear, more sarcasm.

To be fair, leaving Iraq just to step up the campaign in Afghanistan isn't much of an improvement :idiot:
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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby DavidH » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:57 pm

I dunno - a change is as good as a rest. :fsm_rock: Anyway, it's next stop Syria, I believe.
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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby bonsaiherb » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:02 pm

The pleurae are the two constituent sheets of the pleura. So, there.


Sarcasm and irony I might have given to you, but even Ben Franklin had his moments and need I add Samuel Clemens or H. L." Mencken? Present day, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert.
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And the correct pleural of octopus is either octopuses or octopodes RESPONSE being The pleurae are the two constituent sheets of the pleura. So, there.


May I add Pedantic to another English trait. Yup, you got us there. Book learning is not our strong suit.
UK Irony and pedantic I give you.
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YANKS Humor Laurel and Hardy, Lucy, Lilly Tomlin, Jim Carrey, Eddie Murrey, Bill Murrey, Saturday Night Live, Steve Martin, Robin Williams.
You guys have Monty Python and Benny Hill. What else?

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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby daftbeaker » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:24 pm

bonsaiherb wrote:YANKS Humor Laurel and Hardy, Lucy, Lilly Tomlin, Jim Carrey, Eddie Murrey, Bill Murrey, Saturday Night Live, Steve Martin, Robin Williams.
You guys have Monty Python and Benny Hill. What else?

Spelling, it's humour :haha:

Also, I've never heard of Lucy or Lilly Tomlin and Steve Martin cannot possibly be called funny after the travesty that was remaking the Pink Panther films.

Since you ask:
The Goons, Peter Sellers (the Clouseau that was actually funny), Blackadder, Fry and Laurie, Fawlty Towers, Dad's Army, Steptoe and Son, Eddie Izzard, Andy Parsons, Morecambe and Wise, Men Behaving Badly, Only Fools and Horses, Porridge, The Two Ronnies, Open All Hours, Bill Bailey, Black Books, Rik Mayall, Ade Edmondson, The Young Ones, Bottom, Coupling, Smack the Pony, Punt and Dennis, Mock the Week (the first 8 series anyway), Ian Hislop, Have I Got News for You, Spitting Image, Not the Nine O'Clock News, The Inbetweeners, The IT Crowd, Peep Show, Armstrong and Miller, Jimmy Carr, Sean Lock, Rhod Gilbert, Father Ted, The Comic Strip presents..., Green Wing, Brasseye, The Day Today, Alan Partridge, Steve Coogan, Reeves and Mortimer, Lee Evans, Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse, Bremner, Bird and Fortune, Goodness Gracious Me, Jack Dee, Paul Merton and Rowan Atkinson off the top of my head.

Ricky Gervais isn't in the list because he's not particularly funny.

Oh, and Rab C Nesbitt, Chewin the Fat, Billy Connolly, Kevin Bridges and Frankie Boyle (sometimes) before Roy points out I've missed those from north of the border.

Still, if you don't find them funny we can fix that, we'll just release American versions with a laugh track dubbed over the top :haha:

Edit - I forgot Spike Milligan, Phil Jupitus, Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Ross Noble, Lee Mack and Little Britain (the first series only) as well as a sort of claim to Dara O'Briain, Ed Byrne and Dylan Moran who are Irish but now live in the UK.
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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby bonsaiherb » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:08 pm

Spelling, it's humour
Nope I will not cede that one, although my spelling can be awful at times.

Humor and humour are different spellings of the same word. Humor is preferred in American English, and humour is preferred in Olde England. At least we put in articles to define our sentence structure.
Is there a reason the British omit the article when they “go to hospital”? or "go on holiday"?

Is it laziness? Most American speakers would rephrase those as "go to the hospital" and "go on a holiday." Nah, that latter one is painful - we would say "go on vacation." Not too different eh?'
He went to school/church/hospital is totally legit. Going to the school needs further language to complete the structure such as to meet the principle. Going to hospital still pains me as it avoids the reason WHY? Going to rock quarry, vs. Going to the rock quarry.

Always bugged me how you carpetbagged the Canadians into copying this article free sentence structure.

Lucy or Lilly Tomlin
'I love Lucy' and Lilly Tomlin far outshine any of the puffs yous listed. Actually, the Canadians have a better list of comedians.

I do agree with your comment about Ricky Gervais. Someone else comes to mind. He always wears a touque or woolen hat, roles his eyes about and pontificates his form of humor. Can't think of his name as he didn't impress me. Just came to me Russell Brand and as I remember he once said he was running for Parliament. Would that be the Clown Party?

I do NOT put spelin into the UK column.

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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby daftbeaker » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:23 pm

bonsaiherb wrote:
Spelling, it's humour
Nope I will not cede that one, although my spelling can be awful at times.

Humor and humour are different spellings of the same word. Humor is preferred by Americans and humour is correct in English.

Fixed that for you :idiot:

bonsaiherb wrote:At least we put in articles to define our sentence structure.
Is there a reason the British omit the article when they “go to hospital”? or "go on holiday"?

Yes, it's referring to the concept rather than the location. To 'go on holiday' is to have time off in the same way to 'go on sick leave' is to have paid time off work. One can be 'on holiday' (not working) while 'on a holiday' (in a foreign or domestic place other than the usual home) or while at home.

bonsaiherb wrote:Is it laziness? Most American speakers would rephrase those as "go to the hospital" and "go on a holiday." Nah, that latter one is painful - we would say "go on vacation." Not too different eh?'
He went to school/church/hospital is totally legit. Going to the school needs further language to complete the structure such as to meet the principle. Going to hospital still pains me as it avoids the reason WHY? Going to rock quarry, vs. Going to the rock quarry.

Coming from the people that 'write their congressman' and lose half the letters when spelling 'doughnut' this is a little hard to take :haha: Also, the Principal is the person in charge of a school (which is another creeping Americanism, they used to be called Headteachers) and a principle is a moral or ethical value that someone holds.


bonsaiherb wrote:'I love Lucy' and Lilly Tomlin far outshine any of the puffs yous listed.

That's your opinion. It's wrong but you're welcome to keep it.

bonsaiherb wrote:I do agree with your comment about Ricky Gervais. Someone else comes to mind. He always wears a touque or woolen hat, roles his eyes about and pontificates his form of humor. Can't think of his name as he didn't impress me. Just came to me Russell Brand and as I remember he once said he was running for Parliament. Would that be the Clown Party?

No, the Monster Raving Loony Party wouldn't take him. He's a wittering self-obsessed ex-junkie with no coherent thought that called his autobiography his 'booky wook'. The fact he needs slapping into next week is irrelevant.

bonsaiherb wrote:I do NOT put spelin into the UK column.

Think what you like, English spellings are correct :moon:
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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby bonsaiherb » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:16 pm

Please tell me that you really do not have a "Looney Party." I would be happy to send our "TEA" party over anytime. They certainly need to be creamed. Sugar wouldn't hurt either.

I fear it will be swill time for me tomorrow night. Knew I would muck up with a spelling error. Sometimes I just poke at the keyboard before I think."meet the principle." AARGH!

Either way, we have strayed far from the food and imbibition topic. Though I intend to remedy that imbibing issue tomorrow.

UK - BRITS Please note that I concede the Political Party choices to you, hands down. I suspect I would be quite happy with the Irish or Australian alternatives. In the US we have become a two tier system, one can vote for a multitude in the primary, but only for one of the two top vote getters. This could even result in a choice between two Democrats or two Republicans. Considering the bank rolls, no Independent, Green, Socialist or Libertarian has a chance.

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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby Griffin » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:17 pm

daftbeaker wrote:The Goons, Peter Sellers (the Clouseau that was actually funny), Blackadder, Fry and Laurie, Fawlty Towers, Dad's Army, Steptoe and Son, Eddie Izzard, Andy Parsons, Morecambe and Wise, Men Behaving Badly, Only Fools and Horses, Porridge, The Two Ronnies, Open All Hours, Bill Bailey, Black Books, Rik Mayall, Ade Edmondson, The Young Ones, Bottom, Coupling, Smack the Pony, Punt and Dennis, Mock the Week (the first 8 series anyway), Ian Hislop, Have I Got News for You, Spitting Image, Not the Nine O'Clock News, The Inbetweeners, The IT Crowd, Peep Show, Armstrong and Miller, Jimmy Carr, Sean Lock, Rhod Gilbert, Father Ted, The Comic Strip presents..., Green Wing, Brasseye, The Day Today, Alan Partridge, Steve Coogan, Reeves and Mortimer, Lee Evans, Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse, Bremner, Bird and Fortune, Goodness Gracious Me, Jack Dee, Paul Merton and Rowan Atkinson off the top of my head.

Ricky Gervais isn't in the list because he's not particularly funny.

Oh, and Rab C Nesbitt, Chewin the Fat, Billy Connolly, Kevin Bridges and Frankie Boyle (sometimes) before Roy points out I've missed those from north of the border...................

Edit - I forgot Spike Milligan, Phil Jupitus, Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Ross Noble, Lee Mack and Little Britain (the first series only) as well as a sort of claim to Dara O'Briain, Ed Byrne and Dylan Moran who are Irish but now live in the UK.


Not a lot of women in there. Are you aware there are female comedians? Here's a starter for one point: Who was the main character in "Vicar of Dibley"?
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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby Griffin » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:25 pm

bonsaiherb wrote:Please tell me that you really do not have a "Looney Party." I would be happy to send our "TEA" party over anytime.


No we don't have a Loony Party as such. We do have The Monster Raving Looney Party" which is a bit different to being Looney. They put up candidates in a considerable number of constituancies and generally lose their deposit. However, voting would never be the same without them. They fill a gap in the political spectrum and we take them very seriously.

They will be standing in the Rochester Bi-Election soon and will provide a decent alternative to other standard parties.

See their manifesto.

There is a handy quiz which will help understand their policies.

We do have a virtually Looney party. It's called UKIP (apologies to DavidH, I know we need to be taking this seriously but couldn't resist ;))

The Tea Party has nothing in common with our Monster Raving Looney party.
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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby bonsaiherb » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:35 pm

Not a lot of women in there


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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby daftbeaker » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:43 pm

Griffin wrote:
daftbeaker wrote:Big rambling list of UK comedians and shows


Not a lot of women in there. Are you aware there are female comedians?

Yes :moon: Like I said, the list was off the top of my head and I did forget about the Vicar of Dibley, French and Saunders and Absolutely Fabulous. I did include Smack the Pony though.

Having said that, I've just been trying to think of female comedians I like and the only ones that come to mind are Jennifer Saunders (mainly for her work on the Young Ones), Fiona Allen, Holly Walsh and some of Andi Osho's and Lucy Porter's material.

I know it's subjective but I just don't find a lot of them funny - Sandi Toksvig and Gina Yashere in particular but Ruby Wax, Sarah Millican, Zoe Lyons and Shappi Khorsandi as well. Not that they're annoying, I'm just not keen on them.

The 'needing to be flogged with a wet noodle' category is still firmly held by (in ascending order of obnoxiousness) Graham Norton, Joe Pasquale, Russell Brand and Alan Carr. I swear they could use Russell Brand and Alan Carr chatting as a form of torture :shocked:
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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby Monobaz » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:31 pm

From the point of view of an independent observer, I much prefer the subtley of British humour. That being said, I do find it difficult to cope with DB’s breathtaking oversight from his list of British comedy shows/comedians. Shame on you DB, you omitted two of the funniest shows of all time: The Kenny Everett Video Show and The Goodies. In general I find American humour to be brash, blatant, loud and not particularly funny. Without overdubbed canned-laughter I doubt I would know when to smile.
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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby Griffin » Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:08 am

I like all those female comics mentioned.

I think you missed Fawlty Towers which must just be the funniest ever, except maybe Life of Brian.
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Re: Why Brits are better than Yanks

Postby Cap'nsam » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:20 am

Bill Hicks - supremely sarcastic, ironical and much missed. The exception that proved the rule.


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