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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby PKMKII » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:23 am

Hey, we're recognized by the Council of Europe.
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby Tigger_the_Wing » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:36 pm

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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby LinguiniPete » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:21 pm

I have also been attacked for my lack of belief in a "recognized religion". I live in the bible belt and was told the worst thing that ever happened is when they stopped saying prayers in school. I argued religion doesn't belong in public schools (1st Amend.) and even the pledge of allegiance has been bastardized over the years. That lit them up and the continued the rant of the US was founded on christian beliefs as evidenced in the pledge. I study constitutional history and as a country we have seriously gone in the wrong direction. But than again didn't Bush say god was on our side??? :paranoid:
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby PKMKII » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:32 pm

LinguiniPete wrote:That lit them up and the continued the rant of the US was founded on christian beliefs as evidenced in the pledge.


Our country was founded in 1954? :shocked:
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby PantyGnawer » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:35 pm

Moreover, the pledge was written in the 1890's by a complete racist who didn't believe that those damn dirty immigrants would give up their allegiance to their home countries.

They modified it first by changing "my flag" to the totally crapy sounding "the flag of the United States of America" because they were afraid that those same dirty immigrants would mistakenly think that they were pledging alegiance to their home countries flags.
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby daftbeaker » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:24 pm

If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.

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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby LibraLabRat » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:15 pm

I live under the buckle of the Bible belt. It is legal for students to pray in school. It is legal for them to have a voluntary prayer group on campus. It is not legal for a teacher to lead all the students in prayer. Frankly, sometimes rabid atheists can be just as hemmorhoidal as fundamentalist christians. Just saying.
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby Spector567 » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:51 pm

LibraLabRat wrote:I live under the buckle of the Bible belt. It is legal for students to pray in school. It is legal for them to have a voluntary prayer group on campus. It is not legal for a teacher to lead all the students in prayer. Frankly, sometimes rabid atheists can be just as hemmorhoidal as fundamentalist christians. Just saying.
Very true. However, like most things with secularism it comes down to one question.

Would it still be OK if you didn't agree with them?

If a hindu teacher lead a group of students in prayer, or a muslim teacher did the same. Some would suggest attempts at conversion.

Same reason an Athiest teach can't lead a group.

Better to be somewhat annoyed than to be crying for blood, or persecution.
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby LibraLabRat » Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:31 pm

I am going to take a position of benevolent ignorance. As far as I am concerned, all gods are of equal validity. However, once a student starts proselytizing in my classroom, he or she will find themselves no longer sheltered in the comforting harbor of my patience.
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby I Use the Sauce Dude » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:46 am

Everyone has a right to believe what they want. But the moment they force any single one of their beliefs on someone else it is wrong. That being said when I was in about 3rd Grade I had a substitute music teacher in my PUBLIC school who was making us sing church songs... I refused to sing, he got mad, and I hid. He then came searching for me, picked me up by my arm and threw me into a metal folding chair. This resulted in a hairline fracture which caused my arm to break later that day while I was riding bike.

Also your job is safe I hope?
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby Dudeman55556 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:32 pm

LibraLabRat wrote:Ah, it is just a job. There is always the military, after all...free explosives, what is not to love?

The chance of death...
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby Ubi Dubius » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:25 pm

Dudeman55556 wrote:
LibraLabRat wrote:Ah, it is just a job. There is always the military, after all...free explosives, what is not to love?

The chance of death...

But every job has a chance of that. A friend of mine died in the line of duty as a reverse mortgage broker.
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby Tigger_the_Wing » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:04 pm

Ubi Dubius wrote:
Dudeman55556 wrote:
LibraLabRat wrote:Ah, it is just a job. There is always the military, after all...free explosives, what is not to love?

The chance of death...

But every job has a chance of that. A friend of mine died in the line of duty as a reverse mortgage broker.


Was it the overwhelming excitement?

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Sorry, that was unkind. I am so sorry that your friend died. Whatever their job.
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Re: A Tale Of Workplace Persecution

Postby Scott the Pirate » Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:20 pm

I have printed my pamphlets and am ready to leave them as "equal time" on the bus
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